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Post by billy f Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:58 am

Pete,
Just opened my e-mails and seen you have requested an entry form for Snetterton - I have sent it to you Smile

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Post by Pete Richards Tue Oct 14, 2014 9:48 am

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St Goueno continues to be a fantastic and friendly event. It's a French championship round so the cars are fantastic. The minibus system works well but last time we were there we had a slight problem on the Sunday evening but a lift back to the paddock was quickly arranged. A couple of years ago the entry was 140 euros with additional meals on Friday evening 14 euros. Meals on Saturday evening and Sunday lunchtime were 14 euros/person. Particularly good value on Sunday lunchtime especially if you are not driving with the free wine. Sunday evening buffet etc was free. Repatriation insurance as insisted on by the French was a problem last year but was sorted at extra cost to previous years.

An event not to be missed.

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Post by IAN51 Wed Oct 15, 2014 10:26 pm

Ive been having a look at the Ferry Crossings and the Channel Tunnel cheapest ive come across is £189 for a Dover to Calais return crossing

Departing 27th May and returning on the 01st June. (I have got to tie my dates in with the school holidays and its Whitsun week)

Channel Tunnel was £300 approx

Portsmouth to Caen/Cherbourg (Shortest Drive) was coming in at £700 approx

That was for 3 adults and 2 kids, Sprinter is 7m long 2.7m high Trailer is 5m long and 2.5m

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Post by Pete Richards Wed Oct 15, 2014 11:54 pm

It's a long drive but cheaper going by ferry to Calais, or as we have used before Dunkirk, including the fuel and road tolls. We've found it best to go late evening, drive a short way then stop for the night. An early start then gets us to St Goueno early/mid afternoon.

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Post by billy f Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:44 am

When Bill and I went to France earlier this year, we went out to Dunkirk and back through Calais, and also slept in the motorhomes at Dover to get the cheaper crossings. While we were in Calais we found a very large empty car park for a nature reserve which is right next to a motorway junction and also half a mile from a 24 hour booze warehouse Very Happy

Consequently, we were looking at leaving straight after work, travelling to Dover, getting one of the cheaper crossings then grabbing some sleep and booze at Calais, then travel to St Goueno. Also looking at stopping at the same place again on the way back.

If there are several travelling the same days, then I will look into getting a group discount.

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Post by numbnuts Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:31 pm

I need to be back in Dover for the evening of the second at the latest because of Emelias school. Are we planning to do another event before then? Just planning dates with the boss

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Post by IAN51 Mon Oct 27, 2014 8:52 pm

I think Billy and a couple of others are planning to do la Pommeraye which again i think is the weekend before ST Goueno. Personally speaking im looking at heading out on the 26th/27th May.Good call to book the ferry early as this is whitsun week

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Post by numbnuts Mon Oct 27, 2014 9:17 pm

Also three looks like we might be able to get a 20% discount with that link

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Post by billy f Tue Oct 28, 2014 7:32 am

Thanks for the notification of the Ferry discount Very Happy

I will have to see whether the discount makes it viable to change from the cheaper Dover crossings.

Regards an additional event, the dates of the other events have not been finalised yet, but it looks like it will be La Pommeraye the previous weekend, consequently will set off for home after St Goueno.
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Post by billy f Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:41 pm

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I have been away all week, so have just seen that entries for St Goueno are now being taken.

Please re-post if you are going and I will let John (the Masters organiser) know how many will be in our group, and also make enquiries about the normally required repatriation insurance.

Price has gone up since last time, but then again there's much more included in the price.

It would be best if we all entered separately, and then we can look at group bookings for ferries, repatriation insurance etc.

I am busy at the moment, so if someone has time to look at this link:

http://www.uphillracers.com/showthread.php/saint-goueno-2015-now-taking-10407.html

then look at the St Goueno link in this thread to see what is required for 2015 and just post any relevant info on this thread, it would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by IAN51 Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:00 pm

Main points to note

hans compulsory for post 77 cars

Once entry form has been submitted a non refundable deposit of 50 euro to be made payable they will send you there iban number on receipt of your entry
repatriation insurance required

thats about it I reckon
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Post by Martyn Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:02 pm

"Dear all,

I am please to let you know that the entry list for the Saint Goueno Masters 2015 is now open, please use the online form (link below) .

The entry fee is 170€, this includes;

Your hillclimb entry.

Thursday night party for driver and team (No discount if unable to attend).

Friday night meal and concert for (driver+1).

Sunday night wind down munch for driver and team.

Shuttle bus service all weekend into the early hours (however please tip the driver if you wish, he is not paid).



Due to the high level of last minute cancellations and 'no-shows' experienced in 2014 we have been forced to request a 50€ non returnable deposit. This is payable by bank transfer, upon receipt entries will be confirmed. The clubs IBAN number will be sent to you after we receive your entry form.

It is unfortunate this has had to be imposed but in 2014 we lost nearly 20 drivers at the last minute, 10 of which didn't even phone or email, as a result we had to disappoint others who were on the waiting list, however unfortunately for them it was too late to find space on the ferry. In addition we lost a considerable amount of money on the Thursday night party by ordering food and wine that was not consumed.

Please remember we are not a business, our goal is not profit, it is to provide a great weekend of fun and motor sport for like minded friends, I hope you will understand.



Très sportivement.

John Lloyd
Vice President
Saint Goueno Hillclimb

Tel: 0033 Ø2 96 29 92 06

Here is some info:-

Driver and Technical Regulations


To enter Saint Goueno and la Pommeraye Masters is simple, below is a guide of driver and vehicle requirements.



Driver documentation

A valid driving licence.

A valid competition licence of National A grade issued by the MSA.

European Health Insurance card (EHIC).



Clothing

HANS device to be worn by drivers of all cars with the exception of*;

1. *Cars built before 1977.

2. *Standard production cars fitted with original equipment lap and diagonal seat belts.

Helmet which complies with current MSA requirement for hillclimbs with Hans posts (*see 1 above).

Race suit which complies with current MSA requirement for hillclimbs.

Gloves to FIA standard.

Drivers of single seaters & sports racers must wear a balaclava.



Competition car

The car must comply with the hillclimb technical regulations of the UK or Ireland *.

* Sand Racing type cars are not permitted.

In addition to the above the car must have the following safety equipment;



Fire extinguisher

Closed, sports convertable and 7esque cars. . . 2kg hand held minimum.

Single seaters/sports racers . . . plumbed in 2kg minimum.



Harness:

Standard road cars . . . OE or FIA as below.

Modified saloons/sports . . . FIA 4 point Hans compatible, in date, (*see 1 above).

Single seater/sports racers . . . FIA 6 point Hans compatible, in date (*see 1 above).



Other:

All competitors must provide a fuel / oil proof sheet (tarpaulin) to go under car in paddock.

Rear view mirrors.

Clearly marked towing points.



Here is the link for the entry:

http://www.hillclimbfrance.co.uk/entries

Hope this helps,

Regards,

Martyn


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Post by IAN51 Mon Dec 08, 2014 2:06 pm

Im in even if I dont have a car. The very generous Mr Astley has offered to share the mgb with me. Top fella that he is
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Post by numbnuts Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:26 pm

I only have a Nat B licence at the moment and need to upgrade, I haven't been collecting signature's so hopefully the TSL timesheets will get me the upgrade. Do I just scan them and send them off? Do you think I need to get this sorted before I am allowed to enter?

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Post by IAN51 Mon Dec 08, 2014 10:51 pm

Your results sheets from TSL attached to the upgrade card (i think i filled in the card as well) and sent it to the MSA
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Post by billy f Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:35 am

Hi Ed

Your supposed to have signatures from the CofC to say that not only did you finish, but that you were a good boy as well!

However, if you don't have those, then copies of race results will probably suffice, but I would send at least a dozen due to the lack of evidence regarding being a good boy.
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Post by billy f Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:45 am

I am planning on doing La Pommeraye as well, which appears to be the weekend before.

I am currently thinking of going out after work on the evening of Thursday 21 May, from Dover and stopping overnight just outside of Calais. Then travelling Friday to La Pommeraye.

After that weekend looking at making my way slowly across to St Goueno to arrive there for Wednesday, then after enjoying the Sunday night wind-down, leave early Monday morning to get back to UK and back to work for Tuesday 2 June. As the 25th is a bank holliday, I will only need 6 days off work.

Looking at Calais/Dover for my return journey, but if the timings/cost of the St Malo ferry are reasonable may go that route instead.
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Post by billy f Tue Dec 09, 2014 7:49 am

There are 70 places for the "Masters" part of the event, and these fill up quickly. Consequently, I put my entry in yesterday and I am awaiting the reply to send my deposit. Once I have this years contact e-mail address (couldn't see it on their web-site) I will then enquire about the repatriation insurance (again couldn't see much detail about this). I will also ask about the dates for La Pommeraye and confirm who is dealing with the entries for that event.
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Post by numbnuts Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:47 pm

So to clarify do you think I can enter the event with my Nat b and get my licence sorted before we go?
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Post by Jackracing Tue Dec 09, 2014 12:52 pm

Ed, I would contact the MSA and take some advice
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Post by billy f Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:18 pm

Hi Ed

From my experience the licence number remains the same despite changing (as I have done) from B to A, back to B, then A again and back to B again!

To ensure a place, I would apply under your current licence number, and if your number does change for some reason during the upgrade, just let them know.
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Post by numbnuts Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:21 pm

Spoke to them and they reckon it should be fine to enter telling them that I already have Nat A and just do the upgrade for next years licence. the Licence number wont change. Very Happy



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Post by IAN51 Tue Dec 09, 2014 8:44 pm

My Entry has been sent
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Post by billy f Wed Dec 10, 2014 12:49 pm

La Pommeraye has been confirmed as being the previous weekend, so I will be planning to do both events.

Just waiting to get details on La Pomms paddock and some other info.
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Post by billy f Wed Dec 10, 2014 4:27 pm

In the past, the paddock at La Pommeraye has been a quarry near the start line! However, last year it moved to be by the finish line and was apparently much nicer. Hopefully, it will be the same this year Very Happy
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Post by billy f Thu Dec 11, 2014 12:42 pm

I have spent my lunch time trying to work out where the La Pommeraye hillclimb runs and was using google maps plus this youtube clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-OmtfCKR7w

It starts from just outside the quarry to the NE of the village, runs south east on the D571, then does a hairpin left into a lay-by with a stone cottage on the exit point! then doubles back towards the start line but forks left to run up the D151 through the vineyards (and under a temporary spectator access bridge) to La Pommeraye, with the finish just before the village.

It looks completely different to the St Goueno hillclimb but is still a completely awesome track!!!!!!!!!!

After looking at the footage and track, I am definitely going to do this one as well Cool

If you put La Pommeraye France into google maps, then the satellite view actually shows what seems to be a local event taking place!
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Post by numbnuts Thu Dec 11, 2014 6:58 pm

St Goueno entered Very Happy just starting to look at La pommeraye now...............
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Post by billy f Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:36 am

After doing a bit more research on La P, it seems that the length of the track has recently increased from 1.3 miles to 1.6 miles, which appears to be due to a change of the start position. Previously it looks as though you started away from the quarry beyond the lay-by, which made that a chicane. You now start by the quarry so that the lay-by is approached from the other direction and hence becomes a hairpin, which has increased the length of the track. The Esses through the vineyards look awesome, I would imagine similar to the Jim Clarke Esses at Croft, IE a deep breath beforehand and keep your foot planted. It also looks as if the braking point for some of the tighter corners going up the hill would be the exit point of the previous corner - very exciting Very Happy
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Post by billy f Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:25 am

From further investigation it also looks as if the finish line is further down the road, which gives a longer straight out of the last bend, with speeds approaching 100 MPH over the finish line for a sevenesque type car. This means by the time you have slowed down, you are into the village!
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Post by billy f Wed Dec 17, 2014 12:27 pm

My plan is to go out Thursday 21 May, and come back Monday 1 June, so I was looking at ferries the other day and this is the info for a motorhome and trailer from the internet:

Dover/Calais £190 return various sailing times through day and a 1.5 hour crossing.

Portsmouth/St Malo £354 out plus £259 back, though it may be possible to get a 15% discount on this. Sailing times are 20:15 to 08:15 out and 10:30 to 18:20 back, so may need to book and pay for a cabin and food as well.

Portsmouth/Caen about £325 each way, though the return journey times are no good as you don't get back to Portsmouth till 21:15.

As I have a motorhome, I would rather travel the extra distance and sleep/eat in that, and also when I feel like it. It is also significantly cheaper even after allowing for tolls/fuel.

Approximate distances are:

Calais / La Pommeraye 340 miles (so travel Thurs afternoon/evening and stop to sleep and eat part way to La Pommeraye.
La Pommeraye / St Goueno 135 miles
St Goueno / Calais 352 miles (so leave 08:00 for 15:25 or later ferry)


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Post by Martyn Wed Dec 17, 2014 5:18 pm

My entry has gone off for ST Gueno, just waiting for the reply off the main man. I have entered the MGB but may decide to take the EType if I am feeling brave! Shocked
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Post by Pete Richards Thu Dec 18, 2014 12:18 am

Had confirmation my entry for St Goueno has been accepted today.

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Post by Martyn Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:14 pm

St Goueno entry confirmed this morning by email..... what a nice Christmas present!
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